In fact, I fear I am a jack-of-all-trades. (Posts tagged fanfic)

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redwinterroses

All I'm saying is, if a fic refers to characters by their physical attributes instead of their names or pronouns ("he smiled at the older" "the blonde laughed") when we know who the character is, and ESPECIALLY if the descriptions include "ravenette" or "cyanette" or other ridiculous words--

I'm clicking out of that fic so fast my AO3 history won't even register I've been there.

redwinterroses

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I am glad you asked. :D

First, if a writer is using the characters' names every sentence -- they're already off to a bad start. Not every sentence needs to clarify which character it applies to, unless you're writing a "See Jane Run" book, lol.

Overall a good rule of thumb is a) don't repeat unnecessary information, and b) only write things that carry the scene.

So for starters, your readers should know who's in the scene, and you can trust them to have at least a little bit of intuition: not every bit of dialog needs to have a tag ("he said/she whispered" etc.) Now, that established: you do use names when doing otherwise would leave it unclear who's doing or saying things. Example:

George grabbed the lid off the pot. "Dang, that's hot!"

Laughing, Sean passed him a bowl. "Just pour the soup, moron."

"You're a moron."

"Says the guy who just grabbed the lid off a boiling pot."

Sticking his tongue out, George filled the first bowl.

It's clear who says what, and if we had just used "he" it wouldn't have been, but we also didn't have to dialog-tag every line. (ALSO. "Said" is not a bad word. Ignore all advice that tells you never to use "said." "Said" is an invisible word and unless you're putting a dialog tag on every line [which you Do Not Need To Do] people won't even notice it. Unlike "shrieked," "whispered," "hissed," "ranted," "whined," etc. Use those words when they'll have punch and impact. Not every dang line.)

But this isn't always how it needs to go.

For example. Let's say I'm writing about a strawberry-blonde elf named Diana and a human bard with black hair named Jerome. I could say:

Diana leaped to her feet, looking excitedly at the ravenette. "Jerome!" Diane said. "This is our chance!"

Jerome smiled at the strawberry-blonde. "Indeed," he replied.

Okay there are.... several issues here. First off, we don't need to clarify that Diana said the thing after we had her doing an action. Trust your readers! They'll know that a "she" here logically refers to Diane, as they know that "he replied" refers to Jerome.

Next, please strike "referring to characters by eye or hair color" from any lists. This is not good. It's not relevant 99% of the time (we'll get to exceptions in a moment) and also, pet peeve: "ravenette" does not mean black-haired. If you've gotta say it, just say black-haired. Ravenette means "a raven, diminuative" or maaaaaaybe "like a raven." Unless you're imitating an 1800s gothic poet, don't do this.

Physical descriptions used as character indicators/pseudo pronouns are clunky and take up space without telling us anything new. They distance the reader from the character by taking us out of the story and back into exposition land, and they generally repeat information we already know. We can tell our readers in chapter one that Diana has strawberry-blonde hair, and then we don't need to refer to her as "the strawberry-blonde" a hundred more times because our readers already know this. Just call her Diana. Or "she." (Unless it's relevant to the moment -- if she's not our POV character and we need to contrast her to, say, a black-haired beauty at the ball through someone else's eyes, that's one thing. But still, don't continually refer to her by something as shallow as her hair color.)

Exception: visual descriptions are valid to use as character-indicators when we or the characters do not know who that person is. For example, if Diana had been kidnapped by bandits.

She glared at the taller of the two men, who appeared to be some kind of leader. "What do you want?" she spat.

He leered at her, and nudged the filthy blond man at his side. "Ain't she cute," he said. "I like elves. All feisty, they are."

The blond looked uncomfortable. "Whatever you say, Gorm."

Ooooh look! Now we know the boss-man's name. From here on out, we probably should refer to him as either "Gorm" or "the bandit leader" -- not "the tall man" (and never just "the taller." Or "the older," "the younger," etc. That's a side note, but a lot of fics do that too. If you're going to use a comparative adjective, you at least still have to tell us what noun it refers to.)

Also -- did you notice how we never said Diana's name there either? She's the viewpoint character, so unless another person comes along that we need to clarify with, we can usually get away with just saying "she." The reader knows who they're reading about.

When you DO have two or more characters with the same pronouns in a scene, you gotta get creative. Again, readers are intuitive -- they can follow pretty well who's doing what as long as you make it clear. Generally speaking, if you establish which character is doing the thing, you can then use just the pronoun until you switch to a new character. For example:

Diana took the proffered knife. "Thanks," she said. "I was starting to get tired of the stink."

The mysterious rescuer smiled. "No problem," she said. "I'm Peony, by the way." She offered Diana her hand. "Let's grab some horses before the bandits wake up, and we'll get back to Jerome before morning."

"Jerome sent you?" Diana stood, dusting herself off. She wrinkled her nose at the mud stains on her pants, and resolved to buy new ones next time they found a decent tailor.

"Oh, Jerome and I go way back." Peony winked. Sweeping her hair out of her eyes, she motioned toward the horses. "After you."

There's never a confusion that Peony offers Diana her own hand -- not somehow Diana's hand. We don't question that Diana is the one wrinkling her nose, or that they're her pants and not Peony's. Or that Peony sweeps her own hair out of her own eyes. Sometimes you'll have lines where it's a little more confusing, but if it feels awkward in the sentence, always consider if you can re-structure it another way. Like,

Diana kicked her horse into a gallop, heart beating in her chest. "Hold on!" she shouted. Peony cast her a panicked glance, tightening her hold on the rampaging oliphant's saddle. Diana reached for her, grabbing the back of her tunic and yanking her down onto her horse.

Okay, that last line there? That one gets confusing, with all those "her"s. We COULD change it to "Diana reached for her, grabbing the back of Peony's tunic and yanking her down onto the horse." That takes care of a lot of them. Or, we could improve things even further by breaking apart the action, elaborating on things, and just generally stretching out the words so that it's clearer which "she/her" is being referenced at any given time. It's your story! Take advantage of all the room you've got -- there will never be a time when you simply cannot rearrange things to make it clearer for your readers.

It does takes effort. And sometimes a bit of verbal slight of hand. You may have to restructure sentences to avoid repetitive phrases and give yourself a good pace. (That's a large part of rewriting and editing.)

However, like the word "said," pronouns are invisible words. Names are not -- they jump out and say HI THIS IS ME. Use them sparingly -- they have power.

One final exception! Fantasy race and job titles. Again, you don't do this with your POV characters unless you're trying to remind the readers of something, but it IS acceptable to sometimes refer to, say, "the elf," or "the detective," or "the werewolf," or "the duke." Use them sparingly, but this is one exception -- mainly because it tells/reminds us of an important fact about the character. (You might also use, say, "her older sister," or "his father," etc, because that also communicates information about the characters and who they are to each other. But. Again. Use sparingly.)

...okay, I've rambled enough, but hopefully this is somewhat useful/helpful to someone out there.

Again! Read good books! Watch how professional writers do it! Imitate, imitate, imitate! The best writing teachers in the world are good writers.

Happy writing!

redwinterroses

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wait okay no hold up this says it so much faster and clearer than any of my rambling above: identifying characters by their visual attributes tells us WHAT they are, but not WHO they are.

There. Boom. Short answer. Much clearer, much better. Thank you, tumblr user djtangerine.

djtangerine

yea this is why your exceptions work too! if the narrator only knows a character as “that blond guy” then calling them “the blond guy” isn’t jarring to the reader.

the older and the younger drive me up a WALL no one talks like that! i get that rewriting sentences for clarity is hard but it does get easier with practice i promise writing fanfic

Sure, I have a cold and have work tomorrow, but why not start writing a fic for a fandom I’ve never written in at 10 o’clock?

ANYWAY. Enjoy some post-finale Victor/Yuuri at a banquet. :D?

yuri on ice yuri!!! on ice fanfic victuuri my fic

Yuletide 2015 roundup

My assignment:

Without Losers , Where Would the Winners Be?, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia for fujiidom, Charlie/Dee, PG, 4600 words

High school flashbacks, which were fun to write, especially the part where Dennis slimes his weirdness everywhere. I restarted this fic four times, so obviously this fandom came super easy to me. Anyway, I might finish one of my abandoned false starts, where Dee writes terrible Kindle porn and Charlie does her social media promotion.

My main collection treats:

Rolling Destiny’s Dice, Calvin & Hobbes: Gritty Reboot Trailer for jedi_penguin, Gen, PG, 1100 words.

Yeah, I don’t even know. Sometimes you have two hours free at work and write a trippy universe folding in on itself fic about Calvin & Hobbes from the tiger’s point of view. What.

The Thin Line Between Lonely and Alone, Turn for Devilc, Benjamin Tallmadge/Caleb Brewster, PG, 1700 words

This was just an excuse to write Ben/Caleb kissing. Caleb was fun to write. :D

My madness collection treats, both of which I wrote in under an hour on Christmas Day:

Talk Less; Drink More, Hamilton for Citagazze, Hamilton/Burr, PG, 285 words

Burr gets Hamilton to shut up for a minute and is probably too pleased with himself over it.

Genius, Limitless for htbthomas, Brian/Rebecca (ish), G, 250 words

Rebecca is the best! Brian and I both know this.

Gifts for me:

No Restraint, Hamilton, Hamilton/Burr, 6250 words, NC-17 by cartographies

Charlie is Bad Under Pressure (Or: Most of the Gang Finds Out), It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Charlie/Dee, 550 words, R by Missy

I already linked the first one, which I adored, but I also got a Madness treat and it’s ADORABLE. Exactly how I like Charlie and Dee together.

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stickthisbig

Let me explain you a thing about bookmarks.

When you leave a bookmark on a work on the AO3, you are making a comment to which the author cannot respond. You are giving feedback that cannot be replied to. When you leave trash like this on somebody’s bookmarks, the author has no recourse. Can you do it? Yeah, sure. Should you be banned from doing it? No, because used wisely, it can be used as an important tool against an author who’s being in some way abusive or hiding warnings that readers need to be aware of.

Should you leave this type of shit on literally hundreds of stories?

If you’ve got any fucking home training, you should already know you shouldn’t.

I’m not going to sit here and give y’all- and I mean all y’all, because this is far from the only offender- the “fanfic doesn’t have to be good” or the “fanfic’s just for fun” arguments against feedback, because we all know both those arguments are disingenuous. Instead I will inform you that making attacks on people who can’t respond- and yes, it is an attack whether you meant it to be or not, don’t hide behind “I only criticized the ~story~”- makes you a giant bag of dicks.

If you want to criticize the quality of an author’s work, do the polite fucking thing: either say it somewhere the author can respond, or say it behind a friends lock, where you and your dumbass friends can snicker about it together. If you can’t say something nice, then act like a fucking adult about it and don’t do this fourth-grade shit.

[Some disclaimers: None of these bookmarks are on stories by me; I pulled 4’s and 5’s on the two I saw (yippee). And let me make it very clear: if someone acts like a bigot, if they do something *ist or *phobic, if they’re just an asshole to you, you don’t owe them a space to reply. Also, I’ll be using notification block on this post and probably not responding to any asks about it- because, indeed, giving someone the ability to reply doesn’t mean you have to continue the conversation. Have fun.]

bliss116

Okay, unpopular(?) opinion time.  I don’t think it is a requirement to make criticism where an author can respond to it.  This applies to everything, whether it’s published fiction/nonfiction/etc. or fanworks or news articles or film or TV or whatever.  Is it polite?  Hell yes, especially in fannish circles.

As a reccer, my recs aren’t for the author, they’re for other readers.  I don’t generally make anti-recs (since I usually don’t dislike things enough to make an effort), and if I do, I will give you a squillion details as to why.  I’ll give you a squillion details as to why I liked something, too, since a) it helps me remember what something was about if I want to read it again, and b) it helps people to find good things they may like.  All the bookmarks I have added (and will add) to AO3 are full of praise for the author and why I think something is good, and every AO3 bookmark with no notes irritates me as a reader because I want to know why you liked something!

What this person has done seems designed to start wank (granted, they have 900+ bookmarks, so this is really only a fraction of the whole, but it’s apparently a large number—I saw less than 5 in my browse of their first couple of pages, though), and I think it’s incredibly rude, especially, since these “recs” aren’t even criticism.  They’re the equivalent of the “Nope” collection I have on my kindle for works that I read and don’t want to rec or read again for whatever reason.  They’re entirely unhelpful to anyone, which is why I think this person just wants to stir up shit.

I’m really sorry if any of you got one or more of these comments and it ruined your mood or your day, or screwed with your confidence.  If I follow you, or if I’ve commented on or recced your fic, you should know that I consider you amazing, and am so happy that you write or have written things in my fandoms.  Please don’t pay any attention to people’s random negative comments!  I know it’s hard, but remember you are awesome! <333

nonnegative

I’m just wondering what the OP would have replied to this person. I’m more of an author than a reccer, and would you rather have a comment left on the fic that says “meh”, where there’s an actual expectation of responding? Yes, these particular bookmarks seem geared toward wank, but as authors we have to roll with the fact that sometimes criticism is geared toward potential readers, not authors.

also this post does the same thing it's calling itself out for since it's an outside criticism without addressing the person directly w a n k c e p t i o n ao3 fanfic reccing